Pesticides: Not That Scary and Organic Food Not Safer.
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[Maria’s Note: Alison Bernstein, known as Mommy, PhD is my favorite scientist. Heck, I didn’t even know I had a favorite scientist, but Alison opened up this category. Her research is on pesticides so who’s better equipped to talk about the subject than her?
Here’s the deal. Last weekend March Against Monsanto took place. I saw multiple signs saying “Pesticides designed to kill!” What grotesque fear-mongering. Did you know that almost 95% of the pesticides residues in your food is less toxic than the caffeine in your morning coffee?
Probably not. But I’m sure you’ve heard about how scary those pesticides are. Well, Alison examines this in detail today, plus you’ll learn exactly why buying organic is not safer. Enter Alison.]
I never thought much about pesticides and toxic exposures until I was pregnant with our daughter during the great BPA freakout. Then, I obsessed over pesticides and toxic exposures!
It seemed that every mommy blogger was worried and scared. Instead of applying everything I had learned in graduate school about assessing information and data, I fell into the mommy blogger hysteria.
Among other things, we switched to organic, thinking it was pesticide-free and would reduce our exposures. I was a little crazy about it. I knew just enough of the science to freak me out, but not enough to really put it in context.
When our daughter was 1 ½, I joined a toxicology lab and learned actual information about pesticides and stopped worrying about it! My current research focuses on studying the effects of pesticide exposure on the brain and how if affects the risk of neurological diseases.
Even though my work focuses on the effect of pesticides on the brain, I am still not worried about my dietary exposure to pesticides. (It’s really occupational exposure without proper protection and accidental exposures that are the problems). Here’s why:
- The EPA, FDA and USDA regulate pesticide sale and distribution, set safety limit on pesticide residues and enforce these regulations. There is room for improvement and they need more funding to do this properly, especially when it comes to testing organic food.
- Organic food is not safer than conventional. In fact, conventional produce is better tested for pesticide residue than organic.
- Pesticides are not nearly as scary as I thought they were when I started my journey from concerned consumer to educated scientist.
What are pesticides?
Pesticides are anything that kills, well, a pest. They are classified by the types of pests targeted, pesticides include: herbicides, insecticides, rodenticides, insect repellents, fungicides, disinfectants, sanitizer, piscicides, antimicrobials, I think you get the picture!
In general, pesticides that target organisms that are more closely related to us have a greater chance of being toxic to humans (a rodenticide is likely worse for you than an herbicide).
This is because we share more biological pathways in common with organisms that are more closely related to us.
Toxicologists and chemists further classify pesticides by type of chemical. For example, insecticides include organophosphates, organochlorines and ncelrbamates. The type of chemical is informative for understanding the toxicity of a compound, as similar chemicals tend to work by similar mechanisms.
Usually when consumers talk about pesticides, we are only talking about pesticides that are applied to fields and crops and not pesticides that are produced by plants as defense mechanisms against pests (thanks Nurse Loves Farmer).
In short, plants that we consume contain many natural toxins. In fact, scientists estimate that 99.99% of the pesticides we consume are actually chemicals produced by the plants we eat. We have been eating these plants for centuries and don’t worry about them!
So the pesticides we are all worrying about (externally applied pesticides of biological or synthetic origin) represent a tiny fraction of our exposures, which is even more reason not to worry so much.
So from here on, when I talk about pesticides, I’m not talking about pesticides produced by the plants that we eat; I’m referring to externally applied pesticides, whether their origin is biological or synthetic.
Natural vs. Synthetic Pesticides: Irrelevant to toxicity
Pesticides can be classified by their source: synthetic (made in a lab) or biological (what people mean when they say “natural” or “organic”, chemists mean something entirely different when they use the word “organic”). This distinction is meaningless when considering toxicity.
In other words, where a chemical comes from (natural or synthetic) is essentially irrelevant to understanding toxicity.
A good example of this is pyrethroids and pyrethrins. Pyrethrins are compounds produced by chrysanthemums that kill insects by targeting their nervous systems. Pyrethroids are similar compounds produced in a lab to mimic the action of the natural pyrethrins.
The relative toxicities of the compounds in these families have nothing to do with whether they were derived from the plant or in the lab.
How do you know that pesticide residues are below the tolerance level and are actually safe?
There are a number of laws that govern how pesticides are regulated in the US. The Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA) requires that all pesticides that are sold and distributed in the US must be registered with the EPA (there are specific exemptions for minimum risk pesticides).
Other laws (the Food Quality Protection Act of 1996, the Pesticide Registration Improvement Act of 2003, the Pesticide Registration Improvement Renewal Act of 2007 and the Pesticide Registration Improvement Extension Act of 2012) have amended this process.
Under these laws, new pesticides need to be registered before the can be sold and distributed. Existing pesticides must be reevaluated every 15 years to incorporate new data and ensure that they continue to meet current safety standards. All pesticides registered prior to the introduction of the Food Quality Protection Act in 1996 were also reassessed.
What is pesticide registration?
From the EPA (United Stated Environmental Protection Agency):
“The process of registering a pesticide is a scientific, legal, and administrative procedure through which we examine the ingredients of the pesticide; the particular site or crop where it is to be used; the amount, frequency, and timing of its use; and storage and disposal practices.”
The key information for a consumer is that a pesticide can only be registered for use on food or animal feed by the EPA if the results of the risk assessment show “reasonable certainty of no harm.”
You can check the status of the registration of any pesticide on this website.
How does the EPA determine whether a pesticide is safe to use?
The EPA evaluates the potential for pesticides to affect both human health and ecology in three categories.
- Ecological risk assessment: an examination of the potential hazard to non-target plants, fish, and wildlife species
- Human health risk assessment: an estimate of the nature and probability of adverse health effects in humans exposed to pesticides in contaminated environments (not occupational exposures)
- Pesticide cumulative risk assessment: This is a newer category that was added in 1996 by the Food Quality Protection Act. This evaluates the risk posed by concurrent exposures to chemicals that act by similar mechanisms.
In these assessments, the EPA considers data from studies provided by the company applying for registration, as well as studies in the scientific literature. To be included, studies must meet standards set by the EPA.
After this process, the EPA determines appropriate guidelines for the use of the pesticide to ensure that exposures remain low enough to avoid an increased risk of adverse effects. This process also involves the approval of the labels to ensure that the directions for use and safety measures are in agreement with the EPA’s risk assessment.
More specific details about these assessments and the guidelines for inclusion of studies can be found on the EPA risk assessment website.
What are “tolerances”?
According to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (FFDCA), as part of the human health risk assessment, the EPA must set limits (known as tolerances in the US) for all pesticides used on food.
In many other countries, these are called maximum residue limits (MRLs). Tolerances apply to imported food, as well as food grown in the US.
A tolerance is the maximum amount of pesticide residue safely allowed in or on human food or animal feed. There is a particular focus in determining these tolerances on protecting infants and children.
How does the EPA set pesticide tolerances?
From the EPA:
“EPA establishes tolerances for each pesticide based on the potential risks to human health posed by that pesticide. Some risk assessments are based on the assumption that residues will always be present in food at the maximum level permitted by the tolerance.
Other risk assessments use actual or anticipated residue data, to reflect real-world consumer exposure as closely as possible.”
The dose that is set as the tolerance is called the reference dose (RfD). The RfD is the estimate of the daily oral exposure to humans that is likely to be without appreciable risk of deleterious effects throughout the entire lifetime.
In other words, it is the amount of the pesticide that you could be exposed to every single day of your life without any adverse effect attributed to that pesticide.
To maintain transparency, tolerances and the findings of the registration process are published in the Federal Register and the Electronic Code of Federal Regulations.
The FDA and USDA test food to make sure pesticide residues are below these limits. Tolerances for non-organic food are enforced by the USDA (meat, poultry and eggs) and FDA (other food items)
The Pesticide Data Program is the USDA program that collects data on pesticide residues in food. The Pesticide Monitoring Program is the FDA counterpart. This information regarding actual residues is used in EPA risk assessments for re-registrations.
If residues are found above a tolerance, enforcement actions are triggered. This are handled by the FDA, regardless of whether the violation is found by the USDA or FDA program.
In 2014, the Government Accountability Office reviewed the pesticide monitoring programs at USDA and FDA. Overall, the findings were positive and they found that for the produce tested, 95% or more samples were not in violation of the tolerance.
The GAO did issue recommendations for improvements to the programs, including increased sampling and improved statistical modeling to generate more accurate estimates of residues and to test more for pesticides on more products (the list is prioritized based on the risk level and usage).
Of course, implementing these recommendations also requires more funding, which has clearly been a problem across the board in the US these days.
Despite recognizing these areas of improvement, the GAO report was mostly positive and found that the USDA and FDA have found very few incidences of violations of tolerances and have found residue levels well below tolerance levels.
But what about organic?
Organic food not safer than conventional.
First, “safer” implies that non-organic produce is somehow “unsafe” (it’s not unsafe). Second, despite what organic companies want you to believe, organic does not mean pesticide free. And third, the pesticides employed in organic farming are not necessarily safer.
Organic produce is less tested compared to non-organic produce.
An important caveat to this is that these programs largely test for pesticides that are not used in organic farming, with a few exceptions. Exceptions may include organic-approved pesticides that are also used in non-organic farming. Yes, organic farming uses pesticides and they even use some non-organic pesticides (the list of approved substances for organic farming can be found on the National List of Allowed and Prohibited Substances for the National Organic Program). This use of both organic and synthetic pesticides in organic farming has been discussed here.
The USDA and FDA monitoring programs focus on non-organic produce, not because organic is excluded, but because organic is such a small part of the produce market compared to non-organic.
When they prioritize the pesticides to test for, synthetic pesticides are higher on the list because more people eat non-organic produce.
Because of this disparity in testing, when the National Organic Program was established in 2000, this included a requirement that the program set up residue testing for organic pesticides on organic produce.
However, a 2010 audit of the program by the Office of the Inspector General found that the program did not establish residue testing for organic produce, among other issues with compliance enforcement procedures.
In response, the NOP implemented residue testing in 2013. However, this program only tests for the presence of pesticides prohibited by the NOP. They do not appear to be testing for residues of allowed substances.
Therefore, while this testing is useful for identifying violations to the organic certification process, it is not at all useful for assessing the possible exposures to pesticide residues on organic produce.
This point is critical when you consider that organizations that create lists of “safe” produce (like the Environmental Working Group or Consumer Reports) they are using only the FDA and USDA data that is only testing for non-organic pesticides.
A real list would compare residues on non-organic and organic produce and compare the toxicity of those residues. However, there is little to no data about pesticide residues on organic produce for pesticides actually used in organic farming to make that comparison.
While you may see news reports stating that pesticide exposure goes down when people switch to an organic diet, be aware that all such reports look only selected pesticides (used only in non-organic farming). Without knowing what we are trading it for, we cannot say that organic is safer overall. So if you thought that organic food is safer than conventional, well now you know it’s not true. So if you thought that organic food is safer than conventional, well now you know it’s not true.
We using less pesticides, they’re also getting safer and safer
The fact that pesticides residues on food are regulated, tested, and at the end of the day, not as scary as we thought doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do better with pesticides. And we are actually doing just that.
Since the 1970s we have actually done a good job of switching to safer pesticides – they are less persistent in the human body and the environment and are more effective at lower doses. This doesn’t mean we can’t still improve, but we need to acknowledge that we have come a long way.
Part of the switch to safer pesticides has come from the EPA’s reevaluation old pesticides that were used before these new laws went into effect (and the new laws require the EPA to reevaluate each pesticide every 15 years.)
This has resulted in the registrations for old pesticides being cancelled. This allows the EPA to update pesticide registrations based on new data.
The Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants has also played an important role in eliminating the production and use of the worst chemicals in agriculture and industry. I wrote about this in our previous post about whether you need to worry toxicants in our food.
Modern farming techniques have reduced pesticide use
Pests are an unavoidable part of farming. The best way to reduce pesticide use is to employ the best of all available technologies in a comprehensive system of pest management.
Pesticides are just one aspect of effective pest management. An effective pest management strategy includes the use of genetically engineered crops (GMOs), crop rotation, cover crops and the appropriate timing of pesticide application.
I spoke to Kelly, a farm wife and mom who blogs at Daddy’s Tractor. Kelly has written about these approaches employed on her family’s (non-organic) farm to protect the environment and reduce pesticide use.
- Crop rotation reduces pesticide use so that an insect that thrives on one crop struggles in the “off” season to live on a different crop.
- Cover crops means planting grasses or other crops between growing seasons to discourage pests, in particular nematodes. Using cover crops has benefits besides suppressing weeds, including replenishing organic matter into the topsoil and pulling nutrients up from the ground into the soil.
- The timing of pesticide application can also reduce pesticide use. In particular, spraying soybeans later in the growing season allows beneficial bugs the chance to become established.
GMO crops reduce pesticide use
Some people find this controversial, so let’s talk a bit about what the data shows.
A recent meta-analysis showed that use of genetically engineered crops on average “reduced chemical pesticide use by 37%, increased crop yields by 22%, and increased farmer profits by 68%.” This is discussed in more detail at GMOAnswers.com: here and here. The second article provides a summary of data from the USDA.
Insecticide use in corn is down 18-fold from 2000 to 2010. In cotton it is down 6-fold over the same time period. This time period coincides with the introduction of GM corn and cotton for insect management.
Herbicide use in corn and soybeans peaked in 1982. There has been small increase in the past 10 years, but levels are still much lower than they were.
Fungicide usage has remained approximately steady over the years, and GM crops have yet to be introduced to resist plant disease and reduce the need for fungicides.
[Maria’s Note: For more on GMOs you can also check out my article detailing 10 Reasons I’m Grateful for GMOs]
Despite this low risk to you as a consumer, reducing pesticide use is beneficial for the environment, sustainable farming practices and safety for farmers. Reducing pesticide use requires using ALL available safe technologies: genetically engineered crops, newer less persistent pesticides and adopting practices like crop rotation, cover crops and properly timed pesticide application. Nothing is risk free, but regulations have greatly lowered dietary exposures to pesticide on both organic and non-organic produce. Scientists and regulators must continue to work to reduce impacts for the environment and for people who are occupationally exposed.
For more information, the EPA Pesticides page contains more detailed information on the topics discussed here, regarding including health and safety assessments, environmental effects, regulations, and compliance and enforcement.
Organic food not safer, so why not invest in buying MORE (conventional) fruits and vegetables?
As a consumer, the important thing to know is that pesticide residues (as tested by the FDA and USDA) on produce is so far below the tolerances set by the EPA that you really have very little to worry about!
And there is no need to spend more on organic. As I mentioned above, organic is not “safer” than conventional. Buying organic does not necessarily reduce your exposure to pesticide residues but we really have no data on what is actually going on with pesticide residues on organic produce as they are not as vigorously tested.
In fact, with the money you save by not buying organic, you can buy more fruits and vegetables, which is an undisputed, really good thing for your overall health.
My kids just love berries. When we stopped buying organic produce, we could buy more than double the berries for the same price. Now they can eat all the berries they want and we don’t feel like we have to limit their fruit intake because of the price.
A new study published in October 2016 showed that fear-based and fact-light food marketing about pesticides leads people to purchase fewer fruits and vegetables. This is particularly true for low-income shoppers. It has little effect on those who can afford to pay the premium for organic produce, as they just reach for a more expensive but equally safe and nutritious alternative. For those on a budget, however, this fear leads them to avoid purchasing fruits and vegetables altogether.
The benefit of a diet high in fruits and vegetables far outweighs any of the risk posed by pesticide residues on produce. In other words, even if pesticide residues on produce do pose a risk to health, that risk is far outweighed by the benefits of a diet rich in fruits and vegetables. In addition, we also know that the risks of toxic exposures are greater in groups that also have poor diet. Improving diet through the consumption of more fruits and vegetables, whether they are organic or not, may help to mitigate the effects of these exposures across the board by improving overall health.
UPDATE: Revised December 12, 2016 to reflect that some organic pesticides are sometimes included in the Pesticide Data Program and Pesticide Monitoring Program, to address reports of reduced pesticide exposure upon switching to an organic diet and to discuss recent studies on the effects of fear-based marketing about pesticides.
So how do you feel about pesticides? Leave a comment below!
I’ve read various news reports on studies done on the effect of pesticides on people, animals, micro-organisms. One thing that concerns me is bio-accumulation. In Alaska, and especially the northernmost part of Alaska and Canada as well, there is data that shows seal and whales bioaccumulate many of the toxins that originate from manufacturing and pesticide use. Then the people who eat those marine mammals as part of their traditional diet end up accumulating largem un-safe amounts of those toxins in their own bodies.
Also, what are your thoughts on the trend of seeing aquatic life, such as frogs, with deformed appendages and androgenous reproductive organs?
About accumulation of toxins – Mommy, PhD addressed it in this article: https://fitnessreloaded.com/most-common-food-toxins/
I’m informed about the aquatic life problems so I cannot answer that question. Thanks for asking and dropping in the comments 🙂
hen the people who eat those marine mammals as part of their traditional diet end up accumulating largem un-safe amounts of those toxins in their own bodies.
That was due to old pesticides, all the new ones do not bioaccumulate, they breakdown naturally. Anyway the levels of dioxin, PCB and DDt are way down even in the arctic animals.
Also, what are your thoughts on the trend of seeing aquatic life, such as frogs, with deformed appendages and androgenous reproductive organs?
I think you are referring to Atrazine, not many farmers use it anymore so it is not a big issue. At one time 15 years ago it was the number one pesticides, not anymore due to GMOs.
When we look at top of the paid shill list (I mean loser list) once again we find hyperzombie who hides his real name. Hi scumbag – remember me?
I believe you are referring to a claim made by Tyrone Hayes that has been debunked time and time again. http://junkscience.com/tyrone-hayes/
The main reason I choose organic foods is for the environment and for the workers in the fields, not for my own health or safety. Am I confused?
Hi Judith, I haven’t researched this part about pesticides, so I can’t really give you an informed answer right now. Thanks for dropping in the comments!
There really isn’t any evidence for organic being better for the environment. Here’s a few studies to look over:
Nitrate leaching from intensive organic farms to groundwater
http://www.hydrol-earth-syst-sci.net/18/333/2014/hess-18-333-2014.pdf
Choosing Organic Pesticides over Synthetic Pesticides May Not Effectively Mitigate Environmental Risk in Soybeans
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0011250
Does organic farming reduce environmental impacts? – A meta-analysis of European research
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301479712004264
The crop yield gap between organic and conventional agriculture
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308521X1100182X
Pesticide/environmental exposures and Parkinson’s disease in East Texas
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19042691
Sterling and Maria already touched on the environment so I will go with workers in the field. Organic farmers are not any better and in some cases worse then conventional farmers when it comes to the treatment of labor. Its single digit percent of Organic farmers wanted previsions about working condition in the organic regulations. Many small organic farmers basically use unpaid labor in the form of interns to pick crops as they cant even afford to pay field labor rates.
So who do we believe? How much ‘investigation’ are we willing to do and again, how do we know what the truth is. I think a lot of people believe what sounds best to them. Just like politicians. So, at almost 63, I buy what looks best to me and what I think is the best price.
I used to think exactly like you. Since “experts” disagreed then how would I know who to listen to? Then, after years of feeling helpless I realized that maybe there was indeed scientific consensus – I just didn’t know about it. However, I could look for it. And that’s how this series started. Learn more here: https://fitnessreloaded.com/what-should-we-really-be-eating/
It doesn’t get much clearer than that. Thank you for laying out why food fear is so heavily promoted by the organic industry. And thank you for arguing a claim with facts, reason, and logic – a far cry from the yellow papers coming from anti-GMO/pro-organic “consumers groups” with their dabblings in anti-vax and other conspiracy laden nonsense.
Hi Bob, thanks for dropping in the comments!
you really are one of those fake people. I could blow away your argument so easily. But why waste time? I was a vector officer and pest control Field Rep in CA for many years. I can tell you that about everything you try to get across is a lie or twisted information with the bottom line being this about organic food: The less pesticide we use, the better the environment. The less GMO and genetic breeding of plants, the better the environment. Your article basically states not only lies, but your basic argument is completely wrong.
If you can blow it up so easily why didn’t you preferably with peer reviewed research from journals with a real impact factor?
UMM…cause he was lying out of spite. Because his agenda is incorrect about the facts. Also, I wonder if he deworms his pets. Pesticide. Treats himself for athlete’s foot….Pesticide. kills roaches…..Pesticide……More than just food involved.
I skimmed the article and I was left unimpressed. As soon as she claimed that caffeine is more toxic than pesticides I knew she was writing for the low-information average citizen with a lot of sly of hand going on. As I skimmed through, I caught many obvious logical flaws (organic produce isn’t tested for pesticides therefore they are not safer – that makes no sense!). Pesticides use and exposure remains amongst the top concerns for public health by the EPA and NIH because A. their toxicities for many are largely unknown, B. for many, their carcinogenicity is suspected and supported from animal studies, and C. long term affects on nervous systems, endocrine systems and other body systems is become very readily apparent from agricultural workers and from animal studies. The reasons there are less pesticides use in the US is because the history of the health effects on agricultural workers is abysmal.
Look, I don’t always eat organic – I do when the price difference is small (which is increasingly the case), but I sure wash my produce, and I sure the heck don’t treat myself for athlete’s foot with pesticide, kill roaches with pesticide, or deworm my pets. I don’t use pesticides around the house at all, because I know that it is one of the greatest threats to my health and wellbeing. I am, btw, a university professor that researches toxicity and teaches a class in risk assessment, which calculates exposures to pesticides both in the home and from eating as very high health concerns.
Mark,
I’m sorry you were unimpressed. I’d like to address some of your points.
LD50 of glyphosate 5600 mg/kg (oral)
LD50 of caffeine 192 mg/kg (oral)
Thus caffeine is more acutely toxic than glyphosate. Just an example. I do have some issues with this classification as the very very large majority of us are not ingesting anywhere near enough of anything for acute toxicity to be an issue.
My point about organic not being tested for pesticide residue for pesticides actually used in organic is not that organic is safer or not safer. It’s that we don’t know because we have no data to assess such a claim. However, given that residues are low on the produce we do test for, I would guess residues are also low on organic produce. Both are safe.
I study Parkinson’s disease and specifically how developmental exposures to pesticides affect the nervous system. I have a grant from NIH to study this. I am fully aware of the effects of pesticides on people who live and work near farms. (Although I expect this will change as people get older and we have changed from the persistent to non-persistent, less toxic pesticides – but it will take decades to see if that is true.) Perhaps you missed the section at the end when I said that reducing pesticide use is something we need to do. It’s good for the environment, for sustainability and for the health of farmers and farm workers and their communities. It not just pounds of pesticide use, but it’s also about using less persistent, safer and more effective pesticides (which will lead to lower amounts used).
However, for a consumer at the grocery store (who this article is written for), there is not a risk to the consumer from pesticide residues and there is essentially no difference between organic and non-organic from this perspective. If you want to talk about risk assessment and relative, the risk to your health of eating less produce because you are afraid of it is far higher than the risk posed by any pesticide residue on your produce.
It seems you are extrapolating and assuming much from what I wrote. This is specifically addressing the concern that pesticide residue on produce is a risk to our health and whether the claim by organic companies that organic produce is safer has any validity.
I’d be interesting in looking up your work. You can find me on Google Scholar and info about my grant on NIH Report. How can I find your research?
“My point about organic not being tested for pesticide residue for pesticides actually used in organic is not that organic is safer or not safer.”
Having a sub-heading in giant text of
“Organic food not safer than conventional.” seems contrary to that.
Taking you at your word on the procedures for testing organic produce, it is possibly safer, but we don’t really know if it’s not being tested as thoroughly.
You don’t have to take my word for it! I linked to the testing programs at USDA and FDA so you can check it out for yourself. You can find all the test results and information that I looked at. The government is pretty transparent about these programs if you take the time to look.
The list of pesticides tested for on organic produce includes the pesticides not approved for use in organic so the purpose of this testing is to ensure compliance with the guidelines of the National Organics Program.
If the purpose were to test for residues of concern for human exposure, they would also test for the organic-approved pesticides that actually might be used on that produce.
So what doest that mean? It means we don’t know what residues are actually on organic produce and we do know what is on conventional produce (again you can find all this information in the links provided). There is really no reason to think that the residues on organic would be any different than residues on non-organic. Based on all the research that I have done about pesticide use and pesticide residues, I would propose that just like conventional produce, organic produce also has pesticide residues that are of little to no concern for the health of the consumer.
Thus, I stand by the statement – organic is not safer than non-organic. Organic is AS SAFE AS non-organic.
But this is all just repeating in different words what I already wrote. You took one sentence and divorced it from the rest of the paragraph that reached the exact same conclusion that I just wrote.
Scott, I just came across this article from earlier this week that might be of interest. It is about how the problems that arise because of the certification and testing that is part (or not) of the NOP. Frankly, I think the regulations for organic and non-organic should be the same. http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/07/22/fraud-or-drift-usda-finds-43-percent-of-organic-foods-contain-prohibited-substances/
Washing? Fooling yourself professor.
I’m not fake. Here’s my picture. You can look me up on Google Scholar and find all my papers. Since all of your points go against the scientific consensus, the burden of evidence falls on you. Do you have any citations that support your claims?
As I said in the article: Organic uses pesticides and they are often less effective and less safe than synthetic. They often require more applications because of this. Effective pest management requires employing the best of all technologies for safety and sustainability.
Re: Your statement: “The less GMO and genetic breeding of plants, the better the environment” First of all, I assume by “genetic breeding” you mean conventional breeding and by GMO you are referring to modern genetic engineering techniques. Does this mean you want no conventional breeding either? Do you know plants looked like before we started breeding them to be products for food? Look up teosinte. It’s not any corn you would want at your barbecue. Current GMOs actually have a positive environmental impact: more efficient land use, lower carbon emissions, lower pesticide use. Here’s one article of many on the topic. http://thoughtscapism.com/2015/03/22/gmos-and-the-environment/
Alison, thank you for taking the time to write this article and respond to the comments with science. We need more people to speak out with science based facts versus scaring people with misinformation and opinions stated as facts.
I’m guessing neither Mark nor Ken replied? 🙂
Scientific consensus, lol. There it is. This is the same fascist bull that’s allowing Monsanto to work with the FDA to control the narrative and forge society in the image of the technocracy, sell us crap disguised as food that makes us sicker so that we are more and more dependent on an increasingly nationalized health system (that ironically keeps getting less and less affordable), or at the very least rip us off.
You get the Bauxite award for well anything you can come up with and shout conspiracy!
I really hope you get an HBO comedy special because your “facts” are hilarious, especially the GMO positive environmental impact bit.
So you can be found in search. So can many other faulty researchers with gov’t grants.
Hey, glyphosate is safe, how about downing a teaspoon full (a small amount indeed) and proving it?
The dose make the poison and the fact you don’t understand that simple premise directs me to believe your lack of any scientific understanding, especially around the subjects of biology and chemistry, thus why the f would I ever respect what you say over Alison.
I understand why wrote this post like you did, but I think you maybe should have talked about a few other issues that come with use of pesticides. While you talk about pesticides in food, you only barely touch the devastating effects pesticides have on the biodiversity of animals. And all these official guidelines and restrictions that governments set in place don’t really work, as a meta analysis of data suggests that was done recently. (http://m.pnas.org/content/112/18/5750.full.pdf)
I think you are making pesticide use seem harmless, which is not the right way to deal with this issue
What a load of crap. Which pesticide company do you work for?
Do you just call someone a shill if their facts don’t pamper your tinfoil fairy tale ideal?
No, but I do when they post nonsense.
That tinfoil hat crap is getting old. Try coming up with something new, how about ‘your well researched reality?’
In your ham-fisted and outdated explanation of what pesticides are (where you sound as if you’re talking to kindergarteners who only understand “Bad for bugs, but okay for YOU”), you show how truly and utterly ignorant you are regarding the human superorganism. Pesticides mess up your microbial balance, therefore they harm you. Hang whatever they do to your brain. That comes AFTER they destroy your gut, you poor soul. Learn about where real health begins, and then you will maybe start to be qualified to write articles about health on the Internet again (but hopefully in some forgotten corner of where the future corpses of MSNBC and Snopes lie buried in the IOUs from when a bankrupt Monsanto stops being able to pay their online disinfo agents).
I really credit you for decimating the facts so badly that it’s entertaining, especially the part about decreased pesticide use. And you don’t even blush when revealing your sources.
Tell me, does monsanto send you a check or do they pay you via direct deposit?
Can one trust an EPA that is headed by a trump appointed science denier?